The NBA Finals is Rigged. The Miami Heat take game 4 over the Oklahoma City Thunder

The Miami Heat win game 4 104-98 over the Oklahoma City Thunder thanks to the officials.

I’ve never been a person that bought into conspiracy theories or things being rigged. But after this game obviously being tooled with by the referees and with what happend at the NBA Draft Lottery even i’m starting to buy in.

Let’s face it, America wants the Thunder to win to keep the hated Heat and LeBron from winning a ring, but at the same time LeBron is the face of the NBA, and how bad would it look for his legacy and the NBA if he never got a ring? Cue the NBA getting involved.

Everytime a Heat player was touched, especially LeBron and Dwyane Wade, a foul was called. Usually in the NBA Finals the referees let most things go, but in 2012 they call everything one-sided to the benefit of the Miami Heat. The Thunder try to draw the same fouls or even get bulldozed by their opponent and still get no whistle. Even ESPN’s NBA Analyst Tim Legler got involved on Twitter (@LegsESPN).

“OKC cannot get the benefit of the doubt on any calls. Too many touch calls for the NBA Finals.”

“Mia is playing great. Make no mistake. But it’s getting ridiculous how few calls they (Thunder)  get on similar plays to what Mia gets. Obvious.”

When someone attacked Legler for saying he was just mad the Thunder wouldn’t win in 6 games like he predicted (as did i)  Tim responded by saying “ I don’t care who wins. Dude change that tune. I’m just saying what I’m seeing.”

The Heat are a great team with great superstars. They earned their spot in the Finals, but make them work for it. The NBA is serving the championship up on a platter for the Heat and it’s completely ridiculous.

The Thunder earned their right to be where they are but are being treated like 2nd place in the Miss America Pagent, “they will get theirs, just not yet.” I wonder what Timothy Bradley and Manny Pacquiao think about the NBA Finals?

Even with all of this the Miami Heat barely pulled out the last two games. If James Harden and Russell Westbrook played smarter the Thunder would be up 3-1 in this series no thanks to the officials. I’m thinking of even boycotting the rest of the series. I’m disgusted to even write about the NBA at this point, completely pathetic.

I expect for Tim Donaghy (Referee that was busted for throwing games)  to make an appearance somewhere soon.

BOX SCORE:

Miami Heat (46-20) field goals   rebounds
Player pos min fgm-a 3pm-a ftm-a +/- off def tot ast pf st to bs ba pts
L. James F 44:20 10-20 1-4 5-8 +8 3 6 9 12 2 2 3 0 0 26
S. Battier F 39:51 1-4 1-4 1-2 -7 0 5 5 0 4 1 0 0 0 4
C. Bosh F 37:18 6-12 0-0 1-1 -2 4 5 9 0 2 1 1 0 0 13
D. Wade G 41:39 8-19 2-3 7-9 +10 0 5 5 3 2 2 2 2 2 25
M. Chalmers G 33:52 9-15 3-9 4-5 -5 0 2 2 3 3 2 1 0 0 25
M. Miller   03:17 0-1 0-1 0-0 -3 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
N. Cole   07:53 3-6 2-3 0-0 +12 0 2 2 0 1 0 0 0 0 8
U. Haslem   11:27 0-0 0-0 0-0 +9 1 2 3 1 0 0 1 0 0 0
J. Jones   20:23 1-2 1-2 0-0 +8 1 3 4 0 4 0 1 0 0 3
J. Anthony DNP – Coach’s Decision
T. Harris DNP – Coach’s Decision
J. Howard DNP – Coach’s Decision
R. Turiaf DNP – Coach’s Decision
Totals   240 38-79 10-26 18-25   9 31 40 19 18 8 9 2 2 104
  48.1% 38.5% 72.0%   team rebs: 8 total to: 10
Oklahoma City Thunder (47-19) field goals   rebounds
Player pos min fgm-a 3pm-a ftm-a +/- off def tot ast pf st to bs ba pts
K. Durant F 46:10 9-19 1-5 9-9 0 1 1 2 3 3 2 3 0 0 28
S. Ibaka F-C 27:03 2-4 0-0 0-0 -6 1 6 7 2 3 1 1 1 0 4
K. Perkins C 17:51 2-5 0-0 0-0 +4 0 3 3 0 2 0 0 0 1 4
T. Sefolosha G 27:14 2-7 1-3 0-0 -19 0 2 2 0 1 0 0 0 0 5
R. Westbrook G 45:28 20-32 0-3 3-3 0 1 6 7 5 3 1 3 0 0 43
N. Collison   17:17 3-4 0-0 0-0 0 3 1 4 1 1 0 0 1 0 6
J. Harden   36:51 2-10 1-5 3-4 -4 2 8 10 2 5 1 4 0 0 8
D. Fisher   22:06 0-1 0-0 0-0 -5 0 0 0 0 2 1 0 0 1 0
C. Aldrich DNP – Coach’s Decision
D. Cook DNP – Coach’s Decision
L. Hayward DNP – Coach’s Decision
R. Ivey DNP – Coach’s Decision
N. Mohammed DNP – Coach’s Decision
Totals   240 40-82 3-16 15-16   8 27 35 13 20 6 11 2 2 98
  48.8% 18.8% 93.8%   team rebs: 8 total to: 11

Topics: Basketball, Chris Bosh, David Stern, Dwyane Wade, James Harden, Kevin Durant, Lebron James, Miami Heat, NBA, NBA Draft Lottery, NBA Rigged, Oklahoma City Thunder, Referees, Rigged, Russell Westbrook, Tim Legler

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  • ChandruBhojwani

    I couldn’t agree more. After being an avid NBA fan and supporter for two decades, I have no interest in watching any more of the finals. Why even bother having a season? David Stern should’ve just handed the trophy to the Heat at the start and be done with it. 

  • CitizenMusic

    was thinking of boycotting myself. let’s ignite the spark!

  • MannyKatz

    After what happened in the Celtics vs. Heat series I decided not to watch this one. I knew it would be more of the same. Why waste my time. The NBA needs to be fixed instead of being the ones doing the fixing. 

  • kdmath

    Amen. Boxing appears to have some competition. Don’t they know we have DVR. I am a basketballaholic. Love to play coach and watch basketball.   Game 4 was hard to stomach. 3:54 left in the 1st half. LeBron hooks Harden and jump stops in the post, shuffles his feet, elbows Ibaka in the ribs clearing room to pass out, the ball rotates to Wade who pulls up and travels at the free-throw line, misses a jumper, Ibaka scrambles for the loose ball, dose a cartwheel over Bosh and picks up his third foul. 2 early calls kept Ibaka out most of the half. Kind of how the game went for the young and frustrated OKC. Was that the 1st screening out of bounds call of the year? Why is it an OKC foul when Wade screams in the first 3 quarters? If I got a lot of money to play BB I think I could do it w/out screaming the F word regularly.  Stern clean it up!!!

  • Benesmash

    Whoever believes it’s rigged is a fucking moron. You morons just can’t stand to watch the heat and especially lebron james outplay the thunder. Youguys have such a blind hatred for lebron that anything he does isn’t good enough or it’s rigged because you can’t stand to see him win a championship. The only thing your tears are doing is making lebron james laugh and play harder to further destroy the overrated OKC.

  • CitizenMusic

     @Benesmash While I agree that there’s probably not a coordinated fix on these games, I’ll happily bring up the issue so that the referees, the owners (who make up the rules committee) and the commissioner get the thought in their heads that NBA fans see that certain players/certain teams get preferential treatment.  These championship games have been decided by a possession or two each and there have undoubtedly been far more instances where the referees have made calls in the Heat’s favor in each game. So, it’s hard to say that the Thunder are being given a fair shake.  A real NBA fan would recognize this and be up-in-arms about it. A person with a skewed sense of reality thinks that the Heat are “destroy[ing]” the Thunder.  (Through four games the Heat have scored a total of seven (7) more points than the Thunder; an average margin of less than 1.5/game.  Hardly destruction.  The game is called fairly and EVENLY by the referees and even a fool knows we’ve got a far different series on our hands. 

  • CitizenMusic

     @kdmath Aren’t overly-demonstrative gestures towards the referees supposed to be technical fouls now? Where has the enforcement of that rule gone during this series?

  • CitizenMusic

    I’d say that one of these is a definite foul, one is questionable at best (shouldn’t be called in the finals) and the other two are simply not fouls by rule.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joI3Ng21moU 

  • GCEJ205

    First off, I’m not particular fond of the Heat I will admit. They are not a “team” in the sense. They run ISO’s for Lebron and Dwayne. If the other team collapses then they kick, and some one gets an open shot. That being said its what works as long as those other players make shots. But sometimes those players, can’t get their shot going, or have a hard time playing with LEbron and Dwayne, because they aren”t “invovled” in the play.
     
    As far as the fouls are concerned I see the refs playing two different style’s in their decisions in the game.
     
    A. They are calling fouls on the Thunder in favour of the Heat as if they are trying to control the game and not let it get out of hand. This usually happens when ref’s feel they need to “tighten” up the calls because players are getting a little edgy.
     
    B. The are calling fouls/not calling fouls on the Heat, but making the Thunder play as if they “are letting the teams play” That means not calling little touch fouls, and generally letting them fight for position/loose balls.
     
    Thats how I see it and a few others of my friends(who also play/watch basketball) tend to agree. I myself have also playing competitively since I was 6, and been subject to both styles of refs.
     
    It does stop and make you wonder about it. The fact that their is multiple articles also makes you  wonder.
    The fact is if it was being called fair, we all wouldn’t be talking about it.

  • zr0hero83

     @CitizenMusic After last night I’m done watching the series.  Not a fan of either team, but when I see this kind of stuff it makes me wonder why I even follow the NBA anymore.  

  • SpaceCityScoop1

    Thanks

  • SpaceCityScoop1

    Thanks everyone for the feeback. I really appreciate it. I’m glad this issue is being widely discussed. Everyone had great opinions. @Benesmash You need to be more respectful towards everyone on here. I respect your opinion but i do not respect your ignorance. Maybe you’re the one who is blinded into thinking it was failry officiated. I suggest you watch the tape again and don’t be a biased Heat fan. I’m not a fan of either team. I just called it like i saw it. Obviously one-sided in the favor of Miami. Thank you guys once again and i hop you all return to share your opinions!

  • eshaun

    agree 100%.  the nba wants lebron to have a title.  why do you think they televise all these nba clips trying to get us to sympathize w/ him?  why do you think they have those pics of lebron hugging the trophy?  (why not durant?)  it’s a little campaign so the casual fan can begin to like him before giving him the championship.  nba marketing is based on superstars.  the nba can then milk the durant-lebron rivalry for the next few years.  they need the storyline of durant having to overcome an overpowering nemesis before winning his title, a la jordan overcoming detroit and lebron overcoming boston.  but we keep eating it up, so who’s the fool?  surely you remember lakers-blazers back in the day, lakers-kings back in the day, miami-dallas ’06.

  • stats

    ANYone watching this 2012 NBA finals has to be overwhelmingly impressed with the Thunder’s performance – without whining about the fix that has to be in!  
    “Disappointment?”  not the word(s) that come to mind!   FOUL words are what viewers spew when they see a very talented team like the Heat literally GIVEN a free ride, while another very talented team, the Thunder,  FORCED to play with one hand tied behind their backs. 
    I think that a fan-based revolt BEFORE Thurs,. nights game would be the right thing to do.  If literally every viewer  e-mails or calls, the NBA headquarters and expresses the COMPLETE FRUSTRATION that is acknowledged throughout the games because of the obvious corruption in the officiating,
    perhaps something can be done – a change up in officials, or demanded reviews of questionable calls,
    something that can prevent this corruption from defeating an honorable sport ! 
    What does this say for us, when we can’t even play a blasted GAME without everyone watching impotently as the corruption prevails !   

  • MeoWong

     @Benesmash Dude, I am not disputing that LeBron is a great player.
     
    I’ll even admit that at times OKC stop playing team offense and start with the one-on-ones (which really hurts them).  But the ticky-tack fouls that are being called against OKC but not against Miami is obvious.
     
    OKC can’t even play hard defense b/c they are afraid of foul calls.  And when they do stick to LeBron like flypaper (ie. Harden against LeBron Game 4).  LeBron actually got so pissed that he shoved Harden and who was the foul called on?  Not the guy that shoved someone but on the player that was playing annoying but great defense.
     
    Don’t even get me started on Westbrook who did a great job of driving in, getting hit (not hard but hit nonetheless) and not getting calls either cause he was a great shooter and got his shot in or because he wasn’t FLOPPING around like a dead fish.

  • CitizenMusic

    Now, on top of everything, consider the psychological toll it takes on Thunder players. That video i posted yesterday is awfully telling. Durant plays hard and clean and he gets penalized. Very difficult for someone to remain aggressive with the odds purposefully set against him.

  • Rags2Rockets

    I don’t buy the notion of the NBA Finals being rigged. Officiating is extremely difficult in any sport but especially at the professional level. Things happen so fast and the refs need to make a quick decision. They are human and emotion plays into everything. Nobody wants to get booed by the whole stadium so naturally they have the tendency for calls that favor the home team.
    Also, I believe everything evens out in officiating. I think the old saying of “what goes around comes around” can be applied here. Sometimes it doesn’t seem that way but I believe that the refs do their best to call it even.
    Looking at the box score, Miami got called for 18 fouls, OKC got called for 20 fouls. Miami shot 9 free throws more than OKC. I don’t think that number is too significant, however it can be looked at a little lop-sided. We have certainly seen worse discrepancies.
    All in all, I think we need to consider how difficult it is to officiate world class athletes that move a lot fast than any of us ever imagine (unless one of ya’ll is a world class athlete of course). Anyways, just my opinion.

  • CitizenMusic

     @Rags2Rockets I agree in principle, but in this instance it’s not simply the number of fouls, but it’s the types of fouls and the inconsistency with regards to “calling it both ways.” There have been several plays where Wade has gone to the bucket, there has been zero, as in NO, contact whatsoever and fouls have been called. Lebron puts elbows into guys’ chests; no call. Durant simply swings the ball through and gets called for the charge. 
     
    I also agree that officiating is very difficult, but there are the best of the best, they get paid a lot of money and they have ages of experience in the field. To be doing such a bad job that so many fans are screaming “foul” at them, the referees should be ashamed of themselves.

  • JoshHodges

    I’m with ya.  I started suspecting this back in the MIami-Dallas finals when Avery Johnson coached.  I quit watching so seriously afterward.  I come back this season with no major preference, but it’s gotten ridiculous.  Calls are bs nowadays.  I wish Shawn Kemp would come in, knock someone down, and do the three points to their face like he used to.  And now, I mean come on: Miami would not have stood a chance if San Antonio would have gone to the finals–and now the Thunder are down 3-1?!  BS!  These discrepancies are absolutely terrible; refs don’t know when to call charges, they don’t know when to let stuff go.  Hell, I wish Tim Donaghy were still reffing as he called games more legitimately than these jokers do everyday.

  • JoshHodges

     @CitizenMusic I found it amusing that in one of the SA vs Thunder games, they called a foul on the Thunder and they had no idea who was guilty.

  • RobertBayer

    Thank you for posting this … Impressed that Leigler would say this …

  • RobertBayer

    Especially in game 2, the refs allowed the Heat to have the calls they needed to do what they do.. hack and grab, and flop and cry… This does not mean it happened every play but it happened enough to destroy the team chemistry of the Thunder whether they were playing D or O…. These youngsters were not used to getting the raw deal.. and they didn’t know what to do and lost heart… Only the Bad Boys could have possibly handled officiating that badly one sided, which brings me to the next point. Why not let the best team win rather than this David Stern’s Numbers Racket?  This is all about money and hype and NOT about real basketball nor the integrity of the game. Boston was robbed as well… The Heat should never even have made it to the NBA Finals, let alone be given the title. Game 2 in the Eastern Conference Semi-Finals will go down as one of the most corrupt games ever officiated… as will Game 2 of the Finals…. Boston deserved to be in the Finals, winning the eastern conference 4 games to 1, and to take a shot at the Thunder… But they didn’t advance … A con game went down..more than a few times.. and now we have had the most meaningless championship ever given by crook via Stern and his thugs… As far as many of us are concerned.. the Thunder and The Celtics deserved to battle it out.. I for one will never recogize this as a Heat championship.. nor more than I would ever say Mark McGwire hit 70 homeruns in 1998… CHEATING IS NOT A CHAMPIONSHIP, it only shows those who cheat, whether, the players, the refs, or the commisioner as they really are: COWARDS and LOSERS! If this had been a street pick up game, guess what would have happened? The Heat and the refs would have had the manure kicked out of them.. Too bad that is not what had happened because it would have been a just response to the greedy fools who are betraying every basketball fan and player who ever laced up his shoes and hit the courts…Stern can go to Hades! I wont watch another NBA game again unless the Pistons are playing. It is a tragedy really.. but that doesn’t mean any of us have to like or to give an ounce of respect to the NBA for this betrayal of fans and players everywhere.

  • SpaceCityScoop1

    Your very welcome! Legler pointing it out tells you all you need to know.

  • PITBOS

    Robert Bayer – u & I were watching the same game, while the rest of the NBA world refuse to talk about it further. THAT OBVIOUS NO CALL on RONDO n OT would’ve likely put BOSTON UP by 2 & they would’ve won the series 4-1….the referee was Right there and did not make the call….

  • RobertBayer

    PITBOS … it is really sickening, isnt it?  I do no tthink I can watch the NBA anymore .. The Celtics should have been in the NBA Finals .. What also botthers me is how much the sports journalists, for the most part, wont address or try to justify the issue of rotten referees or rotten NBA David Stern fixing these games.  Definitely pure corruption.

  • PITBOS

    Also, no one seems 2 talk bout how Boston (with their old legs & injuries) wore out the artificially made Heat. OKC vs. Miami was NOT such a great series…they always say Boston got tired …. Well what bout The young guns of OKC??

  • RobertBayer

    This article was scrubbed from the Internet but .. got it from the cachet doing a google search…
     
    The NBA, Where Corruption Happens From WordPress.com By David Adler Star player treatment, inflated egos, and conspiracy theories have brought NBA officiating to a new low. Although former NBA official Tim Donaghy admitted to fixing games when he was an NBA official, Donaghy released inside information revealing the truth about NBA officials. Donaghy’s novel, Blowing the Whistle, focuses on the behaviors of referees. In the Eastern Conference Finals between the Boston Celtics and the Miami Heat, the Celtics were hit with five technical fouls in the first game even though the Celtics did little to deserve those technical fouls. “Ray Allen and Doc Rivers did nothing to disrespect the game. There were also several instances were Heat players could’ve been assessed with technical when they weren’t. It’s always easier to T up the road team so the refs don’t have to deal with the home crowd,” said Donaghy. Going into Game 2, there was the notion that the referees might compensate for the poor officiating in Game 1. However, that was not the case as the Heat had 47 free throw attempts to the Celtics 29 free throw attempts. LeBron James, shot 24 free throws all by himself. Many Celtic fans believe that there is a conspiracy to get LeBron James and Dwyane Wade to the finals instead of the Celtics. Junior Steven Kessler says that the officiating in the Eastern Conference Finals has been so biased that the Celtics are put at a major disadvantage. “Whenever LeBron (James) misses a shot, the Celtics are called for the a foul. The refs are controlling the game when it should be about the players,” said Kessler. “The referees are aware of what’s good for the league and what’s good for them. You already have either San Antonio or Oklahoma City in the Finals and what’s better for the league globally is to have Dwyane Wade and LeBron James in the NBA Finals also,” Donaghy said. While some officials protect some star players, other refs hold grudges against players. Donaghy says that Celtics point guard Rajon Rondo is building a poor reputation among NBA officials. “I definitely think he does. Depending on what type of referee is on the floor, they’re all gonna seek out and be the guy to T him up,” said Donaghy. During the first round of the 2012 Playoffs, rondo was suspended after making contact with NBA official Marc Davis; however, Donaghy attributes Davis’ ego to Rondo getting the technical in the first place. “Davis is a referee who think people pay for the ticket to come and see him. He’s one of those guys who have a little bit of an ego. It’s not the first time that Marc Davis has had a history with some of the Boston players,” added Donaghy. On the other hand, Donaghy says that the league’s marquee players receive extra benefits from the officials. “If a player of Kobe’s stature collides with the likes of Raja Bell, the call will almost always go for Kobe and against Bell. The footage I analyzed usually illustrated fouls being called against Bell, rarely for him. The message was subtle but clear — call fouls against the star stopper because he’s hurting the game,” said Donaghy. Because refs have their own inflated egos, they often manipulate the calls in order to gain more publicity. Donaghy says that current NBA official Dick Bavetta was more concerned with himself than the game. “Bavetta actually paid an employee to watch all the games he worked and down everything the TV commentators said about him. He loved the attention. From my earliest involvement with Bavetta, I learned that he liked to keep games close by frequently blowing the whistle on the team that’s having the better night,” said Donaghy. What Bavetta doesn’t understand is that NBA fans care about the basketball games. Bavetta and other refs think that people are watching the games to see them, which is the farthest thing from the truth. All NBA fans know that the league prefers long playoff series to boost revenue; however, Donaghy says that the 2002 Western Conference Finals between the Sacramento Kings and Los Angeles Lakers was series manipulation at its worst. “Prior to Game 6, the league offices sent down word that certain calls-calls that would have benefitted the Lakers -were being missed. Bavetta then said ‘If we give the benefit of the calls to the team that’s down in the series, the series will be even at three, and then the better team can win game 7’,” added Donaghy. In Game 6, the Lakers had a wild comeback where they were repeatedly sent to the line by referees. The Lakers then won Game 7 to advance to the NBA Finals. If one team is better than the other team, the weaker should not be aided by the refs in order to prolong a series. What would be so terrible about the underdog Sacramento Kings upsetting the star-studded Los Angeles Lakers? There is no punishment for poor officiating. The same referees with the same tendencies continue to make subjective calls without any repercussions. While baseball, football, and hockey all have their flaws, they still have their dignity in tact. The NBA remains light years behind the rest of professional sports in ensuring a fair, i

  • wetrix9

    to all guys complaining about the officiating, don’t watch the game. the only time you will stop complaining is when it benefits your team. come on the spurs vs thunder officiating was way more ridiculous. bottom line is the heat are outplaying the thunder and harden is doing next to nothing

  • RobertBayer

    wetrix9 …  a Spur fan?  You guys have been getting flop calls for 10 years!  Sorry but you dont count.

  • kevinthomas12c

     @SpaceCityScoop1 where can I find the tape you’re talking about?

  • RobertBayer

    Guys .. here is a great video of Miami flopping in 2011 ..

  • RobertBayer

    Here are some more vids ..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYNTmEYSMvY

  • wetrix9

     @RobertBayer  nope not a spurs fan at all, i respect them but find them boring. I know that sometimes the officiating is bad and all but if you or most people think the NBA is rigged then why still watch it right? what’s the point of watching then? also I find most people who complain conveniently shut up when calls benefit their teams. i find that quite hypocritical

  • wetrix9

     @Benesmash I agree with you. If the NBA was really rigged then why would the owners of the other NBA teams bother strengthening rosters, paying player huge money to have a competitive team. these owners are businessmen who would know and get out of the NBA if it was fixed.  but year in and year out these owners continues to compete.

  • wetrix9

     @MeoWong  @Benesmash  Does OKC really play good defense? forgive me for saying this but they absolutely sucked at D during the finals. not because of the fouls being called as you say but they are always late in rotating (heat set a record for 3 point baskets made in a 5 game series). also they cannot stay infront of lebron that’s why he was always getting to the hoop. perkins couldn’t move his feet and ibaka was trying to block every shot but in doing so was always out of position for defensive rebounds or the interior pass inside.

  • wetrix9

    just a thought, did miami shooting 10-26 from 3 points and OKC who supposedly is the better outside shooting team shooting 3-16 did not have any factor in this game or miami setting a record 3 pointers in a 5 game series? why did Miami suddenly shoot better from 3, could it have been OKC was not rotating fast enough on the shooters leaving them wide open and OKC shot worse. could Miami’s perimeter defense made them miss those shots that they made against the spurs, lakers and mavs?  

  • wetrix9

     @eshaun you must not have seen photos of the other superstars with the NBA trophy. its called a promo shot. Kevin Durant has one also as well as Kobe and others. Pls look it up before saying something. The NBA yearly does this, they had one before with TMAc embracing ang kissing the trophy

  • RobertBayer

     @wetrix9
    Yet here you are complaining about the Spurs – Thunder Officiating .. Hypocritically doing just what you said you wouldl not do .. And how many times did Parker or Manu flop in the most ridiculous fashion during that series and yet you have NOTHING to say about it .. Proves you are NOT objective just as you will not recognize dozens of horrible calls that have been pointed out .. You have in fact ignored the evidence, won’t present a single argument about those questionable calls and focus on: (1) The Heat shot a lot of 3s! (irrelevant because we are discussing the officiating; (2)Your next argument is that because there are other owners, they would never sit still for any fixed games (Also irrelvant be3cause because they obcvously are sitting still. Do you recall the absurbly high fines that Stern has impose on ANYONE who dares quesstion the officiating, whether an owner (Cuban, over $1,000,000), a head coach (Nate McMillan, $35,000) or a player (D Rose, $25,000).  There are many other examples of free speech being stomped on by D. Stern. And yet you have the gall to pretend you watch NBA games and never even bring up the issue of outrageous fines.

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    Wet Trix, Yet here you are complaining about the Spurs – Thunder Officiating .. Hypocritically doing just what you said you would not do .. And how many times did Parker or Manu flop in the most ridiculous fashion during that series and yet you have NOTHING to say about it .. Proves you are NOT objective just as you will not recognize dozens of horrible calls that have been pointed out .. You have in fact ignored the evidence, won’t present a single argument about those questionable calls and focus on: (1) The Heat shot a lot of 3s! (Irrelevant because we are discussing the officiating; (2)Your next argument is that because there are other owners, they would never sit still for any fixed games (Also irrelevant be3cause because they obviously are sitting still. Do you recall the absurdly high fines that Stern has impose on ANYONE who dares question the officiating, whether an owner (Cuban, over $1,000,000), a head coach (Nate McMillan, $35,000) or a player (D Rose, $25,000). There are many other examples of free speech being stomped on by D. Stern. And yet you have the gall to pretend you watch NBA games and never even bring up the issue of outrageous fines. It was just a few years back when the NBA instigated even stricter DONT DISS the REF rules, which Wade and LBJ seem to be able to break anytime they want without getting a T. Yet the Celtics in game 1 of the ECF got smashed with them. And I am a Piston fan, not a fan of the Thunder or the Celtics. I would like to remain an NBA fan but it is real tough when the Commissioner is corrupt as he11 and is rigging the outcome of games for more league profit. It really is a tragedy.

  • wetrix9

    @robertbayer nope I wasn’t complaining at all, I was just comparing the officiating between the thunder-spurs series and the heat-thunder series and in my opinion the thunder-spurs series had way worse officiating but you won’t hear me say it’s rigged. I respect your opinion as you should respect mine. I remember one game in that series the spurs were already in penalty with about 9 minutes remaining and that’s why they could not defend anymore. Actually it also happened game 2 heat thunder series with Miami having a big lead at that point but by the third quarter they were already in the penalty with still 9mins left thereby allowing them okc to comeback. Fouls called on miami were not because okc was attacking the rim but fouls away from the ball, Ricky tack looseball fouls where there was no clear possession of the ball yet. Try and watch that quarter and objectively see if calls were not called in favor of OKC.

  • RobertBayer

    @wetrix9

    PART ONE: I respect you as a person, but not your opinion. No doubt you have a lot of self-control and make your points with class. Thank you for all of this. Forgive me responding with annoyance because I see what is happening is the corruption of a sport so many of us truly love. If you state that Spurs-Thunder series was bad, you ARE complaining. If you had said the officiating was good or OK, then you would not be complaining about it. The fact that you say you are not complaining is irrelevant, and does not change the fact. In fact, Manu and Parker did a lot of flopping and did NOT get the calls they have been unfairly benefiting from for the past 10 years, and so the officials for one of the few play-off series the Spurs have been in, did a better job. If the Spurs were in the penalty for 9 minutes, please remember they are primarily a jump shooting team, and that is not so inconceivable a situation. The fact that you could not recognize this reversal is not a good sign you understand what constitutes a foul or a flop, and it is now understandable to me why you do not get what all the screaming about concerning the Heat. You simply do not know how to analyze what is taking place before your eyes. Thus you are not really fit to make any final judgment in terms of competently seeing what is going on, whether a flop or hack is taking place.

  • RobertBayer

    @wetrix9 PART TWO:
    in summary, The ECFs and NBA Finals were an atrocity of officiating. For example, the only difference between games 1 (Thunder won fairly) and games 2, 3, 4, and 5 (Heat were gifted the win) of the Finals were the way the officials decided to call the game. It is a shame you cannot tell a foul from a flop or a no call from a hack. This is why you do not understand what you are seeing. There are hundreds of Youtube videos pointing out the garbage the referees pulled on the Celtics and the Thunder. Watch them and learn. I have no dog in this fight except seeing the game being called fairly. If Miami had simply beaten the crap out of the Thunder, I would be delighted and would be the first to congratulate them. It is a darn shame that power-money-hungry Stern and his goons simply could not let the series be played fairly. Stern truly believes bigger market and bigger stars HAVE TO win it all or the NBA suffers financially. POINT BLANK: He belongs in PRISON.

  • wetrix9

     @RobertBayer  are you saying even game 5 was given to the heat? how come? didnt miami beat the crap out of the thunder in game 5 fairly. also against the celtics didnt lebron beat them in game 6 fairly? also how about durant and harden with all the arms flailing thing to get a foul? look at harden driving to the hoop then tries to flail his arms underneath the defenders arms to make it look like a foul. even the analysts said that harden was the best at this kind of offensive flopping. anyway I have made my opinion, hope you guys would still support  the NBA because they truly have the best athletes in the world and very exciting to watch. 

  • RobertBayer

     @wetrix9
     I will be happy to talk about Game 5 in the Finals and game 6 in the ECF when you will even make an intelligent analytical comment on the other games that were the most fixed in the series.  You just ignore what happened, and my points and just move on to something else.  Not gonna allow that .. unless you mean you are conceding that the other games were fixed by the refs and Stern.  Come on, Who ever said Harden flops? And with Wade and LBJ and Manu and Parker running clinics for flopping their caree and so obviously doing just thatr, and are well known for it, you are clinging to Harden flopping? Get real.

  • Larrbear

     @wetrix9 No, in game 5, obviously the Thunder stopped defending.  When they tried, the Heat would just get an and one.  Instead of 3 pointers, they would have been given 4 pointers.  Pay attention.  That game never should have been played at all.  If the referees had been honest, the Thunder would have swept the Heat in four.  By game 5, even the Thunder knew that they were playing against an 8 man team.  The Heat players and all of the referees.  They just started playing offense and let the Heat do as they wished, they were anyway.  How do you lose a game and score 106 points?  Let the referees give the opposing team 40 odd free throws.

  • Larrbear

     @wetrix9 And just how long have you been blind?  Or were you watching the game on your radio?

  • Larrbear

     @RobertBayer I agree.  But you do have to recognize, if the Thunder addresses the officiating, it would be NBA suicide!  They would never be allowed to win again.  Isn’t it a shame what the NBA has turned into?

  • Larrbear

     @RobertBayer I agree,  Stern and the officials were obviously corrupting the playoffs.  I do not particularly blame the Heat for this outcome.  However, I do believe it shows a lack of integrity on their part by not acknowledging what occurred.  If was so lopsided, even they knew it!

  • Larrbear

     @JoshHodges Same thing happened in the Thunder vs Heat finals.  The referee called a foul on Durant and for the first time Durant protested saying he touched nothing but ball when he blocked Wades layup.  The referee changed his call and they said Westbrook was the one who fouled Wade.  They replayed the play, Westbrook was at least 5 feet away from the play and never got close enough to touch Wade.  They still gave Wade the free throws.  Go figure!

  • Larrbear

     @Benesmash Hey dude, I am a Bulls fan and I found the finals comical.  Watching the stumble bums Heat trying to make it look like they were playing well against the Thunder.  If not for the officials, the Thunder would have swept the Heat in four, no doubt.  My team was out, but I was hoping to see a real game.  What a joke championship.  Heat sucks and Ray Allen will regret his move, lol.

  • wetrix9

    @Larrbear I respect opinions that were based evidence. How the he’ll did you know that they stopped playing? That’s purely your assumption. Also do not exaggerate the free throws taken. Heat took 33. Attempts while the thunder took 26. That is not much of a difference. You score 106 points and lose by giving up 121 pts by not defending. Look I am not trying to argue or anything, I just wanted to say that I still believe that the NBA is not rigged that’s why I would continue to watch.

  • RobertBayer

     @Larrbear
     Right Larrbear!  The Thunder felt like they were on very thin ice when defending because the way the flop calls were being allowed or simply no touch (!) fouls and any team is going to back off when they dont want to give even more reason to the refs to call fouls. No team can be aggressive and defend well in those circumstances, except maybe the 1989-1990 Bad Boys.

  • RobertBayer

     @Larrbear
     Right this really is a tragedy .. I mean .. a good half dozen teams each took a turn of the Stern refs fixing the games for the past 10 years ago . but this was far more blatent.

  • RobertBayer

     @LarrbearAlso . the MSM sport writers have their heads up their butts for the most part, and simply do not wish to get their feedbag mad at them.They are blind, with a few exceptions, by choice. I am posting a video about this soon.
     

  • RobertBayer

  • RobertBayer

    The author notes in this video that the NBA is one of the worse sports leagues for fixing championships.

  • Larrbear

     @wetrix9  @Larrbear You answered your own question Wetrix.  The fouls came out close to even in this game.  Check the previous 3 games.  The Thunder knew the referees were not going to let them defend their goal.  Think before you bring skepticism. The Thunder could give them the 2 or give them the 3.  

  • Larrbear

     @wetrix9  @robertbayer No, they were not.  The number of fouls can be a factor, but when the fouls are called can be even more important.  Each time the Thunder threatened to surge ahead, the foul calls would swing in favor of the Heat in games 2, 3, 4, and 5.  Key moments in the games were controlled by the referees.  Thus, breaking the spirit of the Celtics and the Thunder.  The Heat barely survived with the help of the referees.  Games 2, 3, and 4 against the Thunder were won between 3 and 6 points.  Give the Thunder their deserved foul shots and take away the Heats undeserved foul shots and we have a totally different outcome.   My point is this.  Under no conditions and for no reason should a national championship be decided by referees!!  If you were watching, you cannot deny the many bad calls made during this and the previous series.  You would have to be blind!!  Even the announcers were shocked.  In one particular instance, I am not sure which game at this moment, Durant was called for a contact foul on Wade after blocking his layup attempt.  This is one of the only times Durant protested.  The referees, realizing the replay would not show a foul, changed their call and said Westbrook fouled Wade.  The replay showed he never got near Wade.  The broadcasters stated something to the effect of,  ”this is getting a little ridiculous” while laughing at the referees.  The air went silent for a few seconds and all the comments stopped.  Did not see another replay involving a foul again in that game.  Suspicious!

  • Larrbear

     @wetrix9  @RobertBayer Even a mugging is exciting!  That is what the Heat was doing.  They were allowed to run the court physically pushing the defenders out of their way.  If the Celtics and Thunder stood their ground, the Heat would be given the blocking foul.   If, when they were driving, anyone even got near them, again they were given the touch foul.  If was so obviously unbalanced.  The Heat was being allowed to play football on a basketball court.  The Heat did not cause this, the NBA caused this.  I am not a Heat hater.  I just wanted to see the players decide the championship not the officials.

  • RobertBayer

     @Larrbear  @wetrix9Larrbear .. well said! That about sums it up .. Stern belongs in prison ..

  • RobertBayer

     @Larrbear  @wetrix9
     awesome post … really appreciate you making these points ..